" A great Christian by name Saint Francis of Assisi revealed the power of superimposition. When the villagers pleaded with him to control the wild boar, he drew a cross in the air. Immediately, it stopped running. Of course, we don't draw pictures like that in the air. "

" Forget about sakhi. Take the frame only. Don't split into pieces as small sakhi, big sakhi, old sakhi, young sakhi. "

" Actually it is Mother's bhava. I did not define that. It is Radha bhava. You can develop this further. If I touch it with Radha bhava, it will not speak; it cannot speak! What do you say now? So many people witnessed that incident. When you say 'Mother' it is with Radha bhava or something else. Radha bhava is essential. That's why She is known as Maha bhava Swaroopini. Mahabhava is infinite bhava. Take one part of that bhava and practice. "

" I don't dislike anybody. In this bhava, there is no object of dislike. If I could embrace a snake, why cannot I do so with human beings?"

" One lady in Kavali (in Andhra Pradesh) lost her only son. She was bed ridden since six days without food. I went there along with our harmonist (Jaldu Subramanyam) She was lying in the bed. I was already in that bhava. When I said 'get up; why are you lying down?' she immediately got up, rushed to the kitchen and prepared some food for me. After we ate, she came with us by walk. Now, what happened? From where did she derive that strength? What is that bhava? Don't define it. I am stressing that point. Don't limit Mother. It would be a mistake to limit Her."

" You can't include everything just because you want to write about sakhi bhava. It must naturally form a part of sakhi bhava. Otherwise.."

" You must enter sakhi bhava, otherwise it is dangerous. Can maternal bhava be present in sakhi bhava? "

" That is my point. That is why She is Mahabhava Swaroopini. Mahabhava means all pervading. That encompasses everything. You must not limit it. Whenever you say sakhi bhava, I think 'why is she limiting Mother? You are limiting to sakhi. There are five main bhavas - santha, dasya, sakhya, vatsalya and madhurya. (Calmness, service, companionship, affection and sweetness). Infact there are many more bhava, these five are the prominent ones. Sakhya bhava which you are referring to, is only one of the bhavas; what about the rest? Will you ignore the other four bhavas? All the five bhavas together constitute Mother. She is all pervading. You cannot confine Mother. That is my point. You can elaborate on this further. "

" Don't limit to sakhi bhava. Haridas ji follows sakhi culture. They are limiting Her. I don't agree with that. How can Mother's culture be sakhi culture? What about the remaining bhavas? Haridas ji and others are limiting Mother to one bhava only. That is not correct. I don't accept it. Just because he said something, why should I silently accept? "

" Let me explain. The culture which I follow is the all pervading one. Mother is Maha bhava sakthi. Such a title exists only for Her! Why is She known like that? She is Maha bhava Swaroopini. What does this mean? "

" There are so many rasa - sorrow, grief, bhava.. "

" Don't limit to here and there. Nature is only a reflection. It is not something separate by itself. Prakrithi is a reflection of that (rasa). Everything came from that only. 'Rasovaisaha'. Everything is infinitely present in that mahabhava. When St. Francis drew a cross, what is that bhava? Is it Christian bhava? Does somebody have Subbayya bhava or Rangayya bhava (individual bhavas)? There are so many bhavas, nothing wrong in that. But you need not specify sakhi bhava. It is all pervading. Don't limit Mother's powers and Her love. When I embraced the snake, I did not have any bhava other than Mother's bhava. "

" You did not even know Radhaji's name at that time! "

" You are limiting it. I have another bhava also. I must see Her in the tress too and I saw. "

" This mantra was given to me by Goddess Kanakadurga. We did penance for 40 days o the hilltop. I attained so many powers. I did several extra ordinary feats. This mantra is very powerful. Chant the mantra for one hour in the morning and evening. It should be done by your mind and heard by your mind. There must not be any external movement. Practice here for 10 minutes. "

" When the Vedas asked Lord Brahma to describe Sri Radha's greatness , he said 'my life span is not enough to describe Her vast divine history. Because Mother..'. This is a very important point. Her leela is growing every minute. By the time we speak a few words about Her, some leelas are over. She is all pervading. Her leelas have six qualities. They are clearly mentioned in the Vedas. They are not related to this world and nature. That is why it is gunaratham- free from the base modes of the world. It is kamanarahitham- no desires. Mother knows what is within you. Therefore you must not have any desires. Anukshana vardhamanam - Her leelas are increasing every moment. Sookshmatharam - the power granted by Her comes from the transcendental world. She is formless! Anubhavaroopam - there is an experience for everything related to Her. She gives the inspiration to people and gets the work done. Radhaji's leela is visible; Radhaji is invisible. Her leela will continue in a wonderful manner but She is not visible. She grants her darshan only to a few Mahatmas. Though She is not seen, Her leelas are seen. And that leela is still continuing. "

" If you face a big official problem, don't worry. Contemplate on Her and keep quiet. Suppose your health is bad, don't worry. Mother will take care of you. Offer some milk to Her portrait. Do dhyana for some time and drink that milk. One devotee in America had a head injury and suffered from unbearable headaches. Al the biggest doctors in America gave up saying it is an incurable case. He decided to die. Fortunately, at that time his friend from India contacted him. When he heard the problem and his friend's decision to end his life, he said 'don't be mad and hasty! There is a saint in Guntur who can cure you.' Then Krishna came down from America. I told him 'there is no need for any medicine. Only Mother's name. Utter only Radhaji's name all the time.' Now he is perfectly alright. He returned back saying that he will make his house a Radhaji's temple. Such are the powers attained by Radha dhyana. It is not possible for anyone to do such feats! "

" There is a foreign returned doctor in the General Hospital in Guntur. His son did not have a balance of mind. He heard about me and came here. I told him to bring his son near me. That boy demanded Rupees 100 for every visit to our ashram. The parents gave him the money and brought him to me. One day they gave him only Rupees 50. He came half way and went back! Such was his state of mind. I kept him in the room and gave him mantra. He became normal Now he is studying in degree college. "

" Mother has many mysterious powers. Do nama (name) regularly. Don't ask Mother for every small thing. She will give you everything. That is the truth. "

" Radhe Radha Govinda!"

" Mother's leelas are infinite and wonderful "

" Mother is infinite and all pervading. She provides me whatever I want. I don't ask anybody for anything. The Vedas said 'Krishnena aradhyatheti Radha' Krishna always worships Radha. She is Radha due to his worship (aradhana). That is Her greatness! I wrote ten volumes only to answer 'who is She?' Nobody could answer this so far; infact nobody can! Nobody knows who Mother is. I can speak about Her for ten years without repeating any point. That is Her greatness! She came down on earth as a two-year-old girl. That little girl is only doing everything. She came down alone. There was nobody with Her, not even Krishna. "

" The Vedas mention that Krishna has no name or form. At his request, Mother gave him a form. That form is not his, it is Mother's. She gave him that form. What can I say about Her? (Nanna's voice was choked with bhava). Brahma said that his life span is not enough to describe her. "

" You will be spoiled due to friendship with a bad person. Unknowingly you will do a wrong deed. You will move upwards due to friendship with a good person. You must understand this fact and move carefully in this world. "

" The Gita says: Uddharedhathamanathamanam athmanamavasadayeth' ( Self should uplift Itself. God will not do anything.)" "

" That is wrong. He must uplift himself. The Gita stresses on this point. The thought of going to mahatmas is good. But he must improve himself. "

" He will get a thought from within him. He must not ask anybody. I did not ask anybody for any matter in my books. As I receive the thought from within... Mother gives like that! It comes from within. "

" What a great thought. You rise due to one person and fall due to another person. You don't need two persons. One is enough to lift and drop you. Dattatreya was like that. His gurus were all one after another; one at a time. "

" Mother is formless. She is performing leelas in Her formless state. Ah! When She is providing me everything without even asking, will She not make my life run smoothly? I got this thought from within. I have no human being as my Guru. Mother only is my Guru. She is giving me a lesson through every leela of Hers. I am noting down all those points. The message will come from within. Once that begins, you will receive everything from within. "

" Yes. Each has her unique quality. Some have the culinary art; some are adept in music; some others in dance. So each sakhi has some common qualities and also some special qualities. If you listen to some of these common qualities, you will weep. They are always immersed in bhava. That is bhava loka. That bhava is such that they weep for everything. When they think of Mother's name, they weep. The book by Sri Hitaharivamsaji contains the experiences of sakhi. "

" Though I am a small man, my experiences were compiled in a big book 'Rasayogi'. There will certainly be some books about sakhis and their life. We must try to obtain them. "

" I have a book; they will also have a book. That is my point. That is Her leela. One lady in America saw me there while I was here. One must have experiences; otherwise he is not a devotee. Radhaji showers abundant experiences. If you share them with others they will also follow you. That is what Mother told me."

" A devotee (Annapoorna) composed many songs on me. So many people would listen to those songs with such beautiful tunes and excellent music."

" This book on sakhi tattwa does not contain detailed experiences of any sakhi. The people will not relish it. In the book Rasayogi, the author included at least 50 leelas that occurred in my life. That devotee Annapurna addressed me as Murali. She sang songs calling me Murali."

" Whatever may be the culture, Murali is present. Her thought is only about Muralikrishna. She does not know any other subject. "

" Even if you write 400 pages on sakhi tattwa, what is the use if it does not contain a single leela? It will not be interesting to the reader. When you write about a life, you must include experiences. Without experiences, it is not life! Every devotee will certainly have experiences. You are describing sakhi's life without experiences. "

" Mother and I danced together. Did you include this incident? "

" Did you include the leela where She places Her left foot on his head.. "

" Why do you say this book and that book? We are citing the example of Prahlada. There is already a huge book on Prahlada. Is it wrong to give his example? Do you feel that because each leela is mentioned elsewhere it need not be included in this book? "

" Understand one point carefully. There will be very few people who would have read the earlier books. They will read this for the first time. Did you include the sultan leela? "

" I am realizing the Universal. As one poet wrote, I cannot think of Mother without weeping. That is my life. The experiences granted by Her are marvelous and unthinkable. I will tell you about them. The book Sri Radhasudhanidhi is not written by any human being. There is a big story behind it. The book contains 270 verses. The 80th verse says 'I will remove all karmas. There will not be any link between their life and karmas. I will do that.' According to astrology, my life span is 52 years. I am also a great astrologer and wrote many books on astrology. Today I am 104 years old. What happened to my astrology and horoscope? "

" Even today, right now Krishna is weeping, uttering Radhe Radhe. It is not correct to keep Mother away. Krishna is a great devotee. The ignorant people may do something because they do not understand the depth of that bhava. That is why I am installing only the idol of Radha. She came down to Brindavan alone. Krishna did not come with Her. So there is no need to worship both of them. We must not do so. "

" Mother is playing Her leelas marvelously. She is accomplishing those works which even Krishna and other cannot! "

" Take a separate paper and note down what I say. This must form a separate chapter. "

" Yes. I am very sad about it. I don't like it. "

" Rasa, not rasa tattwa, The Vedas said Rasovaisaha. It is not possible to depict as tattwa. It is very difficult to explain. You will say 'that song is so melodious, filled with rasa' or 'that speech is filled with rasa' or 'these poems are filled with rasa'. Rasa is known in so many ways. But nobody can really explain what rasa is! "

" We must explain about that rasa. It is present in so many forms. I composed one song only about rasa. Full of rasa. Even thinking of that is so wonderful. "

" Yes, it is wonderful to contemplate on rasa. "

" These are the three states. Hitaharivamsaji said that his contemplation continues in all the three states. He did not mention anything above them. If you have contemplation in all these states, then real Radha must be above them. "

" No. He is present in all the three states. Radha is present in his dhyana in all the three states. So where is Radha? "

" Yes. She must be there only. If you can see the second floor, it means you are at a higher floor. That tattwa is like a vast ocean. I wrote a song about it. "

" What is Mother known as? "

" That hladini removes desires. Is that bliss? Can bliss remove desires? Kama tattwa and rasa tattwa are different. How can one remove the other? We say 'it turned Manmatha around.' What turned him? "

" What does it mean? Manmatha personifies kama tattwa. If hladini sakthi shakes this kama tattwa, it is some super kama. We don't know exactly what it is! I don't agree that it is only ecstasy. Manmatha prostrated before Krishna. That means hladini is beyond kama. What is beyond kama? "

" We cannot say correctly. The more you think, the deeper it is. Even a single gopika did not feel desire! What is that hladini sakthi? It is a power beyond desires. If you want to remove dirty water, what do you add? "

" So you need the opposite. To remove desire, you need something which is beyond desire. What is the tattwa which is beyond kama tattwa? "

" Don't say rasa. What is the tattwa which can wipe out desires? "

" Certainly not kama; definitely not bliss. Can bliss remove kama? ...Dhyana! That removes kama. I did not tell you about this. "

" I cannot. That is why I want to remain in dhyana till I go back near Mother. "

" Krishna said 'I am sacchinandamoorthy. I provide happiness to all the three worlds. But there is nobody here who can give me happiness'. So what gives him happiness is not Sat-chit-ananda. It is something else! That is hladini! It is beyond sacchinanda. It is indescribable. It cannot be defined. Now tell me, is it not a mistake to attempt to define it? "

" Krishna says that 'Only She provides me happiness.' He is sacchinandamoorthy. But that is not sacchinandaam; it is something else. What is that which gives happiness to sacchinandamoorthy? Hladini. It turned Manmatha topsy turvy. That is not kama. What is it that overcame kama? Hladini sakthi which is beyond sacchinanda as well as kama. If it is not beyond kama, Manmatha cannot be defeated. If it not beyond sacchinanda, Krishna cannot be happy. So it is beyond both. Now what is this? "

" I don't know. "

" What is rasa? "

" That is what we must say. That is why Mother .(weeping). I don't know how to define Mother. I don't know how to address Her. He who does not understand this is a fool; he who understand sis a mahatma. "

" Did you mention these two points in the book on sakhi tattwa? "

" Incessant dhyana! She showed me how that is. I will tell you about it. "

" I cannot. I feel like remaining in that state only. (He was silent for some time).There may be some matter about Mother in those books. "

" Mother is present. If She is not the highest, why will Krishna worship Her? If She provides him happiness, then at what a highest plane She must be. Will you mix something that is so high with something lower? That's why I am installing only the idol of Radhaji. "

" You must write a book on Her leelas. When I went to Ravali to do penance, I went into the deep forest alone. Two sakhis met me there and said 'how can you adorn Mother? You are fools to think like that. What can you do for Her? Will you make a waistband or bangles for Her?' When Krishna Reddy heard about this, he was shocked. He wrote a book on Idols- God in the temple. Is God this much only? Is the all pervading God only this much? Is that what the Bhagawata says? Is that what Prahlada described? "

" God being present in the idol and idol being God are different. We don't want that God who is present in the idol. What is its form? How does it appear? "

" You are saying mechanically. "

" Even if he is present, he is not God. God is one who is all pervading. "

" Who is God? "

" That is God. Don't bring him down. "

" Yes, he is present in the idol also. Suppose you have put a thread through many beads in a garland, in which bead is the thread present? "

" That's it! Can you tell in which bead it exactly is? "

" This is like that. I cannot be without contemplating on Her. That is incessant dhyana. In incessant Radha dhyana, you do not have Radha nama. "

" No name. Dhyana is incessant. You have the essence of Radha's name but not Her name. That's why the Vedas also remained silent. Since Vedas are silent, we cannot say anything. She is hladini sakthi. We do not know how that is! "

" "Eswara paramo Krishnaha sacchinanda vigrahaha Anadiradirgovinda." "

" It must. Now can we call that which has no beginning or end? "

" That is Gita. Krishna also could not define some bhavas. His language is different. "

" He who tries to define Radha is a fool. Don't define Radha. She is indescribable. Krishna says a significant sentence in Chaitanya Charitamrutham. 'I am sacchinandamoorthy. I provide happiness to the three worlds. But nobody except Radha can provide me happiness.' It is evident that She does not belong to sacchinanda. There is no link between Her and happiness. She is beyond that. Then how to define Her? "

" Manmatha is the symbol of desire in the world. Once he came near Krishna and challenged him. Then Krishna prayed to Radha. She transformed Manmatha into Krishna's devotee. He prostrated before him. Unless it is beyond kama tattwa he cannot be defeated. What is it? It has no name. That is the question faced by the world. Radha is not ananda; it is beyond ananda. It is not kama; it is beyond kama. Then how can you combine Radha and Krishna? "

" Parithranaya sadhunam vinasayacha dushkrutham; Dharma samsthapanarthaya sambhavami yuge yuge "

" He came to establish dharma. In one verse Radha said that there is no need of dharma. She is rasa tattwa. Dharma tattwa and rasa tattwa are different. It is foolishness to combine two contradictory tattwas as Radha and Krishna. One is not related to the other in any way. How can you combine them unless they are related to each other? "

" Krishnena Aradhyathethi Radha "

" Krishna is constantly worshipping Radha. Then how can you place him beside Her? In what way are they related? Their tattwas are totally unrelated. "

" I introduced a new dhyana -incessant Radha dhyana. Those who do this dhyana will lose all their karmas unknowingly. The Vedas said 'karmanam bhogato nasyath' - you must face your karma; there is no escape. Preekshit was Krishna's favourite. When he was bound by karma and in danger of snake bite, could Krishna save him? He could not! "

" Her tattwa is beyond karmas. I am the tattwa beyond karmas. I learnt about Mother and did penance for many years. Nobody is aware of this. According to astrology, my life span is 52 years. I almost died at that age and had a rebirth. A leela occurred at that time. Mother assured that karmas will be dissolved. If my karmas are destroyed, I have no link with those 53 years of my life. Now my age is 103 years. I will be 104 years in July. I may live for another 10-15 years. I won't die. I cannot die. Nobody in the whole universe can kill me. I am declaring that I am hale and healthy with no illness. Then what happened to my karmas? What about the Vedas? What about the religious scholars? "

" I asked 30-40 scholars who came from Delhi about this verse on karma. I did not experience my karma. Mother simply cut my karma. I am free from karma. Now I am 103 years. I am declaring that I won't die; I cannot die; Nobody can kill me. How strange! How marvelous! This is the real Radha! "

" Karma gives man his life span and wealth. Karma could not do anything to my lifespan. Coming to wealth, I had only Rupees 50 when I retired from service. I had no wealth or property. One early morning I was sitting in this chair when a small girl, shining radiantly was standing in the corner of the room. I asked Her who She is. She replied 'so far you have served the government. When will you come into My service?' As She asked this question, She transferred some power into me. At that time I was the District Education Officer of two districts with 1500 subordinates. I used to receive some paper or other every two minutes for my signature. I simply threw my pen down and said 'Just now, my Mother. I am leaving my job and my home right now.' My wife and others began to weep when I informed that I would not return. I left everyone behind and came away. Today do you know how much money I have? I vowed that I would not ask anybody for a single rupee. Did I ever ask anybody for money or loan? Never. I will never ask. "